Varget in .223

w*sterner said: i was wanting to use hodgdon varget powder in my .223 but when you put it in the case it doesn't look like enough room for the bullet. i am wanting to load 60 gr bullets and up. any suggestions. can i use this powder. the load iam wanting to try is 75 GR. Hornady match bullets Hodgdon Varget 22.5- 25.0 gr and 60 GR. Hornady V-MAX Hodgdon Varget 25.0- 27.0 gr. can i use varget powder can you pack the powder down when you put the bulet in iam putting them out as long as i can 2.260"

Gr*zzlypeg said: How much powder are you using? 25 gr of Varget fits in no problem with 69g SMK's and squashed down short enough to fit an ar-15 magazine.

sm*k_daddy said: what is your load? Normally with Varget, the *CRUNCH* you hear when you seat the bullet means it's working. :)

w*sterner said: i am wanting to load 60 gr bullets and up. any suggestions. can i use this powder. the load iam wanting to try is 75 GR. Hornady match bullets Hodgdon Varget 22.5- 25.0 gr and 60 GR. Hornady V-MAX Hodgdon Varget 25.0- 27.0 gr.

m*grant hunter said: I'm using a compressed load(not saying but it's more than 25;)) with 60gr bullets(vmax/hollow points and soft points) and getting very good results. Don't be shy, fill 'er up!

w*sterner said: so it dont matter if the powder is right up to the bottom of the bullet or if the bullet packs it down a bit.

jm*ddy said: Nope Its expected with Varget My favorite sub moa is 25.3 g over a 69g smk works everytime.

w*sterner said: what is a good charge with a 60 Hornady V-MAX bullet and Varget.

Str*nger said: Nope Its expected with Varget My favorite sub moa is 25.3 g over a 69g smk works everytime. Bingo! My load as well! s>

jm*ddy said: Try 23.8g you can work it up a bit.

1/2 M*A said: I'm using 25 gr of Varget with 75 gr Hornady A-Max in my .223 its a compressed load and shoots amazing. I also use Varget in my .308 and it is also a compressed load. Like others have said with Varget a compressed load is the norm. But you should still start with a lower powder charge and work your way up every gun is different.

Cy*N1de said: My nominal load is 26gr behind 69gr SMK's. Have had loads up to 27.x in my LRPV with no ill effects but I did work up to it slowly. 60's may allow slightly more.

D*c M said: +1 for Varget being known for compressed loads. 45gn in my .308 loadings with 165 Sierra GameKings took 3 nice deer this year and punch well-under MOA in my Savage 10FCP HS Precision. I haven't tried it in .223 but there's already lots of good advice from those "in the know" above. All I know is I sure like Varget in my .308. 45gn was so nice I tried all the way up to 46gn but didn't notice any significant velocity or accuracy boost - and started getting a bit of extractor marking on the headstamp, so backed off to 45gn and it's a hummdinger of a load that doesn't misbehave. Definitely compressed though - as mentioned, the "crunch" tells you it's working... lol! -M

W*nnipeg Toymaker said: 25 gr of Varget pushes my 69 grain SMKs to the point of one hole at 100 yards. Seems to work better than the IMR 3031 I like to use.

s*nior said: i was wanting to use hodgdon varget powder in my .223 but when you put it in the case it doesn't look like enough room for the bullet. i am wanting to load 60 gr bullets and up. any suggestions. can i use this powder. the load iam wanting to try is 75 GR. Hornady match bullets Hodgdon Varget 22.5- 25.0 gr and 60 GR. Hornady V-MAX Hodgdon Varget 25.0- 27.0 gr. can i use varget powder can you pack the powder down when you put the bulet in iam putting them out as long as i can 2.260" Just curious what gun your using? I'm loading 68gn Horns to 2.285", the rifle will take 2.3" OAL but they won't cycle thru the mag of my Tikka. My load of 26gn of Varget is just (if any) slightly compressed.

c*rbonrod said: Nope Its expected with Varget My favorite sub moa is 25.3 g over a 69g smk works everytime. Yeah, that is the Sierra accuracy load IIRC. I can load 25.0 - 25.6 mix the rounds up, and still get decent precision out of my R-15. Perfect for the volume loading with a 550b.

w*sterner said: what would you guys say is better h335 or varget. i was using h335 but i thought i could stick with one powder if i went with varget.

KDX said: I'm not sure about H335, but Varget is one of their 'extreme' powders that isn't very temperature sensitive.

w*sterner said: my 223 is a tika t3 with 1-8" twist.

F*ssteel said: my 223 is a tika t3 with 1-8" twist. What bullet weight do you wish to load for? Mostly 69 and 70gr, Varget sounds like a very good choice. Light weights in the 50, 55, 322 is popular , 335, 748, really a long list of good powders that might work very well in your rifle. I'm working with a 55gr Ballistic tip load with 24gr of Win 748 in my CZ varmint Kevlar, a 1-9 twist rifle, getting some sweet groups at 100 yards. FS

w*sterner said: i bought some reloader 7 a year of 2 ago just because they didnt have any h335. i was wonderin if anyone new a load with it for a 60-75 gr bullets.

f*remachine69 said: The first time you compress a smokeless-powder charge, you'll almost be crapping your pants. Everything's good after that! :D

F*ssteel said: i bought some reloader 7 a year of 2 ago just because they didnt have any h335. i was wonderin if anyone new a load with it for a 60-75 gr bullets. The Sierra manual has data for Re 7 for 60gr starting load is 18.8gr, max is 21.5. 69gr match kings start is 19.0 and max is 21.2. FS

m*nitou210 said: What bullet weight do you wish to load for? Mostly 69 and 70gr, Varget sounds like a very good choice. Light weights in the 50, 55, 322 is popular , 335, 748, really a long list of good powders that might work very well in your rifle. I'm working with a 55gr Ballistic tip load with 24gr of Win 748 in my CZ varmint Kevlar, a 1-9 twist rifle, getting some sweet groups at 100 yards. FS Hey fastsleel give those 55gr BT a full case of Varget, 1/9 XCR my Rem flings them at 3420fps and 1.20" at 300y should be thunder on hogs and Coyotes Be carfull you don;t blow up that CZ

m*nitou210 said: i bought some reloader 7 a year of 2 ago just because they didnt have any h335. i was wonderin if anyone new a load with it for a 60-75 gr bullets. RL 7 works good in my 222 rem and also 223 with small bullets 53/53gr match but no ball powders I have tried work well with heavy bullets. Keep with Varget, Rl 15 , VT 540 & 550 couple guys having success with 4895 as well

R*jamB21 said: Win 748 , 25gr , 55gr hornady , No chrinch, no chrunch , too much accurate to brag

pr*onur said: Westerner I have the same rifle and I was scared when I went to load max with 63 gr Sierra soft points and Varget because the case was full. I just backed it off 0.5 a grain and the bullets shoot great. The rifle absolutely LOVES Sierra, 60 gr hollow points and H335 powder. I was getting one hole groups with it at 25.3 gr of powder if I remember correctly. I stopped loading the 60 HP bullets because I wanted a heavier bullet for coyotes and then got distracted when I switched to Varget. The Tikka Varmint will shoot sub MOA with just about any load over 3000 fps with any powder and Sierra bullets from my experience with no signs of high pressure at all. I really have never pushed mine much when it comes to max loads to be honest because I never found the need to try to find more accuracy than 0.4". The hottest load I ever ran was 26 gr of Varget behind the 63 gr Sierra spitzer bullets which works very nicely at all temperatures.

s*skcop said: Varget is super in the .223, just does meter as well as ball. I have shot 55 grain bullets over 27 grains of W748 for years. More accurate than I can shoot 'em. Flows through the powder measure like poop through a goose. Seems to save time when reloading large quantities.




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