Hodgdon Announces New Super Powders
KDX said: Handloaders can now safely duplicate the performance of Hornady Superformance and Leverevolution ammunition. http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/ST_Hodgdon_081710A.jpg Today, Hodgdon Powder Company shared with a small group of InterMedia's writers an announcement that beginning in January 2011 it will offer two new canister powders that allow handloaders to safely duplicate the velocities of Hornady's Superformance and Leverevolution lines of premium ammunition. According to Hodgdon's Chris Hodgdon, Superformance and Leverevolution powders essentially duplicate the proprietary blends currently being used by Hornady, and previously unavailable to handloaders. This is welcome news to handloaders who until now have had to sit by and watch as factories make the best use of new bullets such as Hornady's FTX and mass-produced loads that handloaders couldn't safely duplicate. This should also be welcome news to shooters who until now have avoided new high performance cartridges over concerns about future high performance ammunition availability. http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition/ST_superpowders_081710WO/index.html#cont
bl*rgon said: Great, now we can over-pressure our loads, just like the factory superformance ammo...:rolleyes:
22t*45 said: I am sure that this new super powder will make all the powder we used before out of date and out of style, and we will have to throw out our inventory and replace it with the new. I love a good trend, and I run counter to them even in reloading. I use old CIL round nosed bullets to hunt. I was told the other day in a gun store that those old cup and core bullets are only good to throw at water bottles now. He wanted me to throw them out too, and only use current bullets.. I have some partitions and Barnes bullets in the inventory, but I am saving them, I do not know what for. A 200 grain CIL RN KKSP at 2650 fps out of the '06 has been enough for quite a while..
KDX said: If I can use a clean powder that gives me greater accuracy with my 17FB or .223 I'm all for it. I don't care what it's called or who makes it. Right now Benchmark is all I use because it works great.
*mpegor said: supposedly the superformance ammo usses some new progressive burning rate powder that actually lets hornady produce those velocities at or less than the pressure of the standard load. Read an article on it a while back and seems pretty cool.
t*gger said: Call me naieve, but I welcome new products, even though the old ones work just fine for me. No, I do not need the newest superblammo powder or disintegrateelephants bullets to kill what I hunt, what I was used last year worked, and likely will work this year. That being said, If I see a can of these powders at a show, or am putting an order in I will try them, thats part of the hobby for me. If we shun advancements, maybe we should go back to matchlocks, after all the flintlock was the newest hottest thing at one time.
h*kx said: If the cost is comparative, Ill try it. If it is prohibitive (i.e like that "Blackhorn" BP sub), it will never grace my man cave.
t*gger said: I should note I agree with hakx, if I wanted to spend 4-5 bucks a shot, it would be with a heavy magnum, not my muzzleloader. Blackhorn powder, premium bullets, special 209 primers, its not hard to make it add up.
*KTREE said: I for one will be all over the new powder which will duplicate factory 460 S&W loads. This is very difficult to do using currently available powders. H110 and Win 296 are the only two that come close using Hodgdon data, yet when I enter these loads into Quickload, the predicted chamber pressures are downright scary. Oddly, published data for powders other than Hodgdon result in predicted pressures within SAAMI specs for this cartridge.
S*lverback said: Great, now we can over-pressure our loads, just like the factory superformance ammo...:rolleyes: Is there any fact to this or is this just your opinion. I very much doubt that any ammunition company would sell ammunition that did not meet SAAMI specs; they would be sued to bankruptcy in no time. There always seem to be a fear of anything new, why couldnt this powder do as advertised, think of the advancement from black powder to smokeless. Most of the powders we use now are still 70 year old technology.
bl*rgon said: Is there any fact to this or is this just your opinion. I very much doubt that any ammunition company would sell ammunition that did not meet SAAMI specs; they would be sued to bankruptcy in no time. There always seem to be a fear of anything new, why couldnt this powder do as advertised, think of the advancement from black powder to smokeless. Most of the powders we use now are still 70 year old technology. There have been several reports online of Superformance ammo locking up bolts. As well, Hornady makes Superformance ammo in several cartridges, from .243 up to .458 win, including a 12ga load. Remember, this is not a LINE of powders, its just one. So this one miracle powder will increase velocity in every cartridge, without any increase in pressure, in any of them? I call BS. Maybe it will work in some, but EVERY one of these cartridges?? .243 win .257 Roberts .25-06 6.5 creedmoor .270 win 7x57 7-08 .280 7mmRM 308 30-06 30TC 300WM .300RCM 338WM 338RCM 375 H&H 375 Ruger 458 Win Superformance ammunition is 100 to 200 fps FASTER than any conventional ammunition on the market today, and achieves this performance in EVERY gun, WITHOUT increases in felt recoil, muzzle blast, temperature sensitivity, fouling or loss of accuracy.
t*gger said: Hmm, these powders do not show up on Hodgedons or Hornadys website, whats up?
M*unt Sweetness said: Bring it on, this is good news for the .30-30 loaders. Was never much of a Hornady fan but they are starting to show some creativity, innovation works for me.
n*tsorichguy said: Well I for one can hardly wait to try the new 'Super Performance' in my reloads........ I'll buy the first can that hits my local stor shelves! Cheers!
s*vagefan said: Always nice to try a new product, but hell, we can't even get Varget here.
ffwd said: Always nice to try a new product, but hell, we can't even get Varget here. Exactly. or H4831, or Rl 17, or, or, or....
d*veg01 said: I would like this just for the 30-30 hunting loads. I'll give it a try with the FMX bullets.
D*nny Fenn1 said: personally i'd like them to do what they (Hornady) does for the 6.5 Creedmoor where they put all th load details on the box and use over the counter powder/primer so you can duplicate the factory load if you so choose...
nr*t said: http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/08/hodgdon-will-introduce-two-new-powders-in-2011/ If this powder is everything Hodgdon claims, it is indeed a wonder powder... By the time it is available up here we will know one way or the other if it is what Hodgdon sez it it is.. :)