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Pacific DL 105 Hand Shell Reloader W/RCBS Precisioneered Reloading Scale
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*usten said: I loaded a small batch of .44 SPC today (Lee turret press). What a total pleasure it was!! I have the Lee delux .44 mag/spc die set and I've been having quite a bit of problems getting consistent bullet seating depths with the mag's. Not to mention not having the kit for being able to use two powder disks at one time forcing me to use one disk at a time (what a slow process!) So today, even though I was taking my time, I still flew through 43 rounds in about 2o minutes. Each pull was just perfect for the .44 special and I was having so much fun I just wanted to keep going! Now if I could figure out what I'm doing wrong with the mag's!! Any suggestions?
*usten said: No takers eh? :kickInTheNuts::slap:
J*hn Y Cannuck said: Nope, need more info. What type of bullet are you using in the magnum? Same as the special? If you are using a different bullet, you may be getting a fit problem with the lee floating bullet seater. If you are shooting cast, in either, check that the bullet seater isn't plugged up with bullet lube.
*usten said: Nope, need more info. What type of bullet are you using in the magnum? Same as the special? If you are using a different bullet, you may be getting a fit problem with the lee floating bullet seater. If you are shooting cast, in either, check that the bullet seater isn't plugged up with bullet lube. Same bullets for both, 245 gr cast FMJ (if I remember correctly), I'm using carbide dies so I was advised to not to use lube.
s*nray said: "...cast FMJ..." Hi. It's one or the other. There's no such thing as a cast FMJ. There are plated bullets that look like FMJ's(jacketed) though. Plated bullets are loaded with cast bullet data, not jacketed data. It's important. You'll have to set up the dies for both cartridges. The Magnum is a bit longer than the Special and won't be sized properly if you don't. Mind you, you may have a die set with a spacer. Looks like a washer and makes up the difference in case length. If you're using cast bullets with the Special, you'll have to clean the lube gunk out of the cylinders before you shoot magnums. You can load .44 Mag brass to Special velocities and make this cleaning go away.
*usten said: Ahhhh...that makes totall sense about the bullets!! You are totally correct, they are the cast plated ones. I have been using the cast data specifically for Rugers for the magnum loads and generic cast data for the special. I don't remember seeing the washer with the die set. If I move the seating die further up for the magnum will that solve the problem?
C*rdan said: ...not sure how helpful this will be, but after having reloaded a bunch of .38spl, I reloaded a few .357mag rounds for the first time yesterday and yeah, I did find it considerably more difficult. Seems like the instructions, eg "screw the die until it touches the case holder then back out one full turn" don't apply anymore, and you sorta have to do it by feel. I did end up having to screw the dies in much higher... The reason I'm not sure if this is helpful is that I don't see why the dies being screwed in too deep would've caused inconsistent bullet depths. In my case, I just got a lot more of everything, like much too big a bell from the expanding die... In any case, it can't hurt if you screw your bullet die in higher. Again, follow Lee's instructions in the manual: "with a properly sized and expanded case, screw the die in until you feel it stop against the mouth of the shell... Back out the bullet seatin adjusting screw until you see threads, put a bullet in the case mouth and raise the ram...check the bullet depths and screw in the adjuster until the bullet seats to the bottom edge of the cannelure, then screw the entire die in 3/4 turn" Worked like a charm with my .357! "...cast FMJ..." Hi. It's one or the other. There's no such thing as a cast FMJ. There are plated bullets that look like FMJ's(jacketed) though. Plated bullets are loaded with cast bullet data, not jacketed data. It's important. mini thread-hijack: Are the jacketed cast bullets you speak of also known as CMJ, or copper metal jacket? I noticed the data for those was similar to the data for lead bullets...
*usten said: Yeah I think your right. I followed the instructions to the letter, the problem is, the instructions are written for the .44 special hence the perfect loading for it. I just kept thinking I was doing something wrong and was getting so frustrated with the magnum loads and then when I tried the special it worked so perfectly!! I've been trying to find information on Lee's website but no luck so far. There are probably is instructions somewhere to take the guesswork out of it. Basically for a magnum turn the powder die up 3 more turns etc. I crushed two shells pulling the lever too far on that die. Edit: I just found some additional instructions for bullet seating!
d*Bear said: If you are using the same bullets for the mag as the spl, it should be no problem. If memory serves me right, all you need to do is back the charging die and the seating die out 2 full turns to change to magnum from special setting. I may have to look on my manual to verify but almost positive. Nothing else has to be changed. Like mentioned above, incinsistent seating may be the result of a sticky seater plug gummed up from waxy lube off cast bullets. Good luck dB
*usten said: Ok guys, my double powder disk kit from Lee arrived today so I got it set up and tried your advice regarding the seating die and after a few attempts I got it perfected and have perfect .44 magnum rounds coming out!! Thanks very much for all the help and advice! Much appreciated! BTW, to clear up the earlier bullet confusion brought by me, what I am using is CMJ Cast FP. I had to look up CMJ as it was a new one for me but so is using Cast bullets! :cheers: