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l*rd-humungous said: I am going to load 270 for my new (in the mail) hunting rifle. Should I buy a stock of once fired brass from the EE, go to the store and buy new brass or buy factory ammo, shoot it in my gun and save the brass?
c*rbonrod said: I would start with at least some of the cheapest brass you can find for the same reason your first mountain bike should be a piece of crap -- you are going to wreck stuff as you learn. So long as it is cheap, known to be once fired, and has the same headstamp, you have all you need to start in to rolling your own uberload for next fall.
M*unt Sweetness said: I pick up a box or two of cheap ammo and have some fun shooting your new gun....then use the 40 cases to load up.
hk33k*1 said: .270 Winchester or .270 WSM? If you are new to the gun, calibre and reloading I would do a little of both. Buy a box or 2 of factory ammo to use and save the brass, also you could pick up some new and or decent used brass to load with as well. Having fired some safe factory ammo this will let you know how the gun works with less variables. You could also PM me and I'd be happy to send a new reloader some used brass.
l*ogie33 said: I am not that new to reloading but i went and grabbed 5 boxes of factory and now I have 100 once fired brass :)
41 C*lt said: I only buy new brass for an old caliber I load that's difficult to find. The rest is 1x fired.
r*d-oak said: I like to get factory loaded brass fire it and reload it and not full size the brass. I call it fire formed to the gun for a better fit and a more acurate cartridge just my thought.
HKM*rk23 said: I pick up a box or two of cheap ammo and have some fun shooting your new gun....then use the 40 cases to load up. x2 but I'd keep a couple of factory rounds aside as a measurable reference for your reloads. This is by no means necessary but can be reassuring until you're 100% confident in your product. I would start with at least some of the cheapest brass you can find for the same reason your first mountain bike should be a piece of crap -- you are going to wreck stuff as you learn. This is how I'd add to my brass. IMHO this is why they call it reloading. If you're gonna buy new brass it may as well have a bullet and some powder in it :D .
tjh*ile said: Save your money with once-fired brass if you can find it.
m*ke shickele said: I would suggest that you start out with a couple of boxes of factory ammo...........for 2 reasons. First, when you fire it in your rifle, it will be fireformed, and you won't have waisted components in doing so. Second, it will give you an idea as to what the primer should look like when fired at pressures that a factory conciders acceptable. Mike
K*nny_G2 said: As a dedicated reloader I take pride in having a number of new to me guns that have never, and will never, shoot factory ammo. Thats just me though. I buy once fired and new brass off the EE all the time. I also scrounge once fired brass off all my hunting buddies. 270 should be easy to find
m*keelliot said: Nothing wrong with once fired brass as long as its clean. No need to worry about 270 Win, chances are it hasnt been fired from a machine gun with a sloppy chamber :D
f*sherking said: How many once fired cases are you looking for?
st*bblejumper said: I buy only new,bulk brass,because I don't want brass that may have been stretched by firing in a longer chamber.If it has been fired in a longer chamber,and your rifle has a tight chamber,your dies may not bump the shoulder back far enough to chamber it easily.
H4831 said: I will go along with the -buy two boxes of factory ammo- crowd. I am not a fan of unknown, once fired brass. It's true, 270 should have been shot in a good chamber, but after all, the 270 has been around for eighty plus years. You shouldn't ruin the brass with starting out reloading, if you take your time and follow a proper procedure. Also, with your factory ammo, make two or three, five shot groups at 100 yards, using the best rest you can get. Don't let the barrel cool off between shots, just normal, slow fire. Let it cool between groups. What the groups look like will determine the condition of your new rifle. If you are lucky, the five shots may make a round group, of maybe 1 to 1½ inches. If you are unlucky, the bullets may walk, with the last one hitting three plus inches, often higher, than the first. If this happens, have your rifle bedded, before you waste more ammo on it.
b*n hunchak said: If you are starting from scratch I would suggest that whether you buy new brass, used brass, or factory loads, buy all the same brand with the same headstamp. Different makes will have dif. capacity and could only complicate things.
j*thunter said: Was a time not so long ago when the CGN reloading forum wasn't worth looking at because the quality of the advice was just... bad. Interesting how things have turned around the last couple years. Sorry, back to topic :redface:. I mostly start with new brass - be it loaded factory ammo or bulk brass, for the reason Stubblejumper said. It just takes away one unneeded variable. But i don't condemn using 1F from a different rifle - it's cheaper. You just need to be more thorough on your before and after-firing inspections, and you might not get as many firings from it because it will need to be FL resized before load it the first time, while brass from the same rifle shouldn't need FL sizing. For picky eaters like automatics and pumps that need to be FL resized every loading you may as well buy 1F brass. On a new to you rifle - shooting a box of factory ammo that's the same make as your reloading brass is a good practise. It's useful to have 1F factory cases to compare to your handloaded fired cases from the same rifle. Combined with a chronograph and a good measuring instruments it can give you some valuable insight into the pressure levels of your reloads.
d*wnwindtracker2 said: New 270 brass is about cheap and easy to find as brass gets.Is once fired truly once fired? If you find the empty box and the shiny brass at the range,yes,but off sellers,maybe. The range brass might also be the wrong brand,say Federal and you have mostly Winchester. Those two brands shouldn't be mixed,they are usually very diferent weights.That happens to me all the time.I'm only thinking here,but I would think neck tension affects accuracy,brass stiffens with use.Once fired has a place,cheap plinking loads,for hunting loads,use the good stuff.
bl*cksmithden said: The guys are right. Go blow off a couple of boxes of factory ammo and have some fun. With the EE, you never really know what you're getting. I bought some "once fired" brass a while ago that wound up having reloading die scratches on it and no, they weren't full length sized and deprimed before they were sold. It's buyer beware out there. If you're just starting out, you'll have a few problems all on your own without somebody selling you more.
Br*cky said: Here is an excert from my Lyman 49th Reloading Handbook; Caution: Load only cases which you have obtained as new unfired brass or which you have on hand as the result of firing new factory ammo in the firearm for which you wish to reload. A few pennies saved on bargain "once-fired" brass makes little sense when one considers the cost of a firearm and/or medical treatment, or worse. Stay with new cases and keep the selection of brass worry-free and safe. I am also new to reloading and prefer to err on the side of caution. Learning this new hobby and reading the endless resources is turning out to be one of the most interesting and fun hobbies of all. Good day and keep safe!
s*perd222 said: If this is your first rifle, go get a box of factory ammo - this way you can enjoy shooting it right away!!!! We all know you're going to want to!! Then, start reloading....safely. Read all the reloading manuals you can before you start! I'm with the idea: "I only feed my rifles with my reloads from new unfired brass" Don't worry about feeding it factory ammo - it will forgive you once you learn to roll your own hoolies!!! Have fun!!! Enjoy your new 270!!!!! SD
*irwolf said: I agree with several people who said that they don`t reload range brass.....To me, it`s like shooting someone else`s reloads....Be safe with the brass you know....