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Lee Factory Crimp Die 30 Mauser / 7.62 Tokarev Bottle Neck - 90086
Lee Factory Crimp Die 30 Mauser / 7.62 Tokarev Bottle Neck - 90086
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RCBS # 16 SHELL HOLDER,  In Exc Condition 9 mm, 30 luger, 30 mauser, etc.
RCBS # 16 SHELL HOLDER, In Exc Condition 9 mm, 30 luger, 30 mauser, etc.
   $5.00
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RCBS * Shell Holder # 16 # 09216 30 Luger 30 Mauser 356 TSW 9 mm 9x21 9x32 Win
RCBS * Shell Holder # 16 # 09216 30 Luger 30 Mauser 356 TSW 9 mm 9x21 9x32 Win
   $9.70
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90755 Lee Steel 3-Die Pistol Set 30 Mauser
90755 Lee Steel 3-Die Pistol Set 30 Mauser
   $35.40
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LEE 90086 * BOTTLE NECK PISTOL FACTORY CRIMP DIE * 7.62x25mm TOKAREV * 30 MAUSER
LEE 90086 * BOTTLE NECK PISTOL FACTORY CRIMP DIE * 7.62x25mm TOKAREV * 30 MAUSER
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LEE Steel 3-Die Set 30 Mauser New In Box #90755
LEE Steel 3-Die Set 30 Mauser New In Box #90755
   $29.99
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LEE 90755 * STEEL 3 DIE RELOADING SET * 30 MAUSER
LEE 90755 * STEEL 3 DIE RELOADING SET * 30 MAUSER
   $28.95
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Hollywood Press Shell Holder #16 fits 9MM Luger, 30 Mauser and 7.65 Luger
Hollywood Press Shell Holder #16 fits 9MM Luger, 30 Mauser and 7.65 Luger
   $10.00
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Hollywood Press Shell Holder #10 fits 30 M1 Carbine / 30 Carb, 30 Mauser, 25-20
Hollywood Press Shell Holder #10 fits 30 M1 Carbine / 30 Carb, 30 Mauser, 25-20
   $10.00
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Dillon RL550B Conversion Kit-7.62x25mm Tokarev/30 Luger/30 Mauser-(20175) NEW
Dillon RL550B Conversion Kit-7.62x25mm Tokarev/30 Luger/30 Mauser-(20175) NEW
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New Lee 30 Mauser Steel Bottleneck 3 Die Set  90755
New Lee 30 Mauser Steel Bottleneck 3 Die Set 90755
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Lee Factory Crimp Die 7.62x25 Tokarev/30 Mauser #90086
Lee Factory Crimp Die 7.62x25 Tokarev/30 Mauser #90086
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Lee Universal Shell Holder R3 for 30/30, 6.5x55 Mauser, 32/40 etc - 90520
Lee Universal Shell Holder R3 for 30/30, 6.5x55 Mauser, 32/40 etc - 90520
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90086 Lee Factory Crimp Die 30 Mauser/ 7.62 Tokarev
90086 Lee Factory Crimp Die 30 Mauser/ 7.62 Tokarev
   $22.06
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Lee 30 Mauser 3 Die Set - 90755
Lee 30 Mauser 3 Die Set - 90755
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Swaging "copper"

g*ant yetti said: Has any one thought of swaging pennies or "penny type coinage" into gas checks or bullet jackets? I'm thinking .311 cal. I'm mostly just curious.

ml*htovaara said: Well other than it being illegal....................

th*mp_rrr said: Take a magnet to a penny and tell me if it's copper.:eek:

bl*ser.306 said: Has any one thought of swaging pennies or "penny type coinage" into gas checks or bullet jackets? I'm thinking .311 cal. I'm mostly just curious. 1st off they would have to be old pennies ! The new ones are zinc with a copper wash, And second they would be too small in diameter to be of any use for Jacket material ! If anealed they might be able to be formed into a check shape but would be too thick to use with current GC shanks on comercialy available boolit moulds !

ph*shroy said: it would involve allot of effort, annealing and thickness issues. our 30 cal gas checks do fit shanks on 0.311 cal

hk33k*1 said: I believe most people making checks are using copper sheeting. Also jackets are made using a copper tubing and lead wire. Cast Boolits forum has a lot of people doing this and some members making tools for it. Some are even making checks out of pop cans. I'm still just using Hornadu .30 checks for my 308 and 311 boolits.

tr*vj said: How well equipped are you, as far as a metal lathe and the ability to use it? Pennies are crap. The few copper ones left in circulation are still crap for this purpose, as they are of varying thickness and will not form very well. You won't save any money doing this, either. Take a look at the check making tools that are available. Aluminum flashing is thicker than pop cans and easier to work with. Brass shim stock is available in any thickness you might need, and though it's a bit more coin, it'll work and form really really well. If you want the real thing, you need to track down a supplier of gilding metal or cartridge brass. But if you think you will save any money at this, you are hallucinating or delusional. You can pick up pop cans on the side of the road and make money faster than you can save it by making your tools and making jackets or checks. If you want to do it because you can, that's a whole different thing. Cheers Trev

r*okie wildcat said: I HAVEN"T YET DONE ANY SWAGING!! So take this for what it is. Uninformed but interested. Would it not be just as easy to try soft copper tubing? Should be sufficiently soft and malleable to flow into the die, the swaging pressures should render it a solid piece of material, and it should still be sufficiently hard enough not to cause problems with fouling. Or am I talking out of my hat? Trev, I am still working through that book. Interesting stuff, though.

bl*ser.306 said: I am currently building my own swaging press(es) and dies for rifle and pistol bullets . Will also soon be starting on a set of tooling for copper coining and jacket equipment . I have had about enough of being held hostage by the bullet manufacturers . Sorry for the highjack !

s*lver 55 said: There is something called, I believe, the Wilkes gascheck. It looks like a copper washer. It is placed in the bullet mold about midway before the lead is poured. Not sure where you are going to get more info on it. Good luck.

bl*ser.306 said: There is something called, I believe, the Wilkes gascheck. It looks like a copper washer. It is placed in the bullet mold about midway before the lead is poured. Not sure where you are going to get more info on it. Good luck. Ther are some for sale over on Cast boolits right now for .30 cal!

J0HN_R1 said: Well other than it being illegal.................... This thread shouldn't have gone any further (in the discussion of pennies) than this... No different than cutting a center-fire rifle barrel, or unpinning a 30rd mag... Totally illegal... :rolleyes:

g*ant yetti said: Fine. Chucky cheese tokens. Thank you to the people with constructive comments! Much apreciated! As for intent, there is no illegal intent. It apears that copper tubing is the best material for checks, but I'm more interested in a semi-jacketed bullet design ( I know, not terribly different). As for tooling, I have access to a hobby machinist and equipment, as well as an aviation sheet metal shop. At this point, this is entirely speculative! Keep the great ideas comming! Thanks again!

bl*ser.306 said: This thread shouldn't have gone any further (in the discussion of pennies) than this... No different than cutting a center-fire rifle barrel, or unpinning a 30rd mag... Totally illegal... :rolleyes: That's just what we need here more people to stop the open discution of ideas about our chosen sport ! I thought we had it bad with only the govt. to contend with . But it would appear that we (shooters) have begun to limit ourselves to narrow thought !!!

n*nuk said: This thread shouldn't have gone any further (in the discussion of pennies) than this... No different than cutting a center-fire rifle barrel, or unpinning a 30rd mag... Totally illegal... :rolleyes: since when was cutting off a centerfire rifle barrel illegal? Or unpinning a 30rd mag??? if my Lee Enfield had a mag adapted and it held 30 rds, I would have no qualms about "unpinning" it... and shortening the barrel to 20 inches

g*ant yetti said: It's a moot point now because pennies seem impractical, but would it be defacing government property if pennies were no longer legal tender? Kinda like wiping ones but with a two dollar bill... At any rate, it seems that pennies would need to be rolled or hammeredto a uniform thickness and width (if said non legal tender coins were of aproptiate matterial) before even begining to form anything resembling a bullet... Seems like to much work :p. I'd rather be shooting. What other materials can jackets be made from? Copper and brass are obvious. Anything that is comonly discarded?

bl*ser.306 said: Cartrige brass !

t*riaq said: I can't see gas checks being swaged from tubing. Sheet or strip, yes, but tubing? Jackets have been formed from tubing. .22 jackets can be made from fired .22lr cases, 6mm from .22Mag. RCBS = Rock Chuck Bullet Swage. Started back in the '40s. There are those who make their own jacketed bullets. Most likely becasue they choose to do so. Haven't noticed the name Corbin in this thead yet.

M*sterMC said: I would try small pieces of copper tubing or pipe found at plumbing section in hardware stores. :)

z*ke said: Over at cast boolits there's a special area for this topic,as well as the material to use. Hobby store copper sheet's or as many are finding out aluminum flashing by the roll. Go over there and have a look. There's a guy that make's the dies that's a regular.

m*rshman said: This thread shouldn't have gone any further (in the discussion of pennies) than this... No different than cutting a center-fire rifle barrel, or unpinning a 30rd mag... Totally illegal... :rolleyes: like this http://coinpress.com/penny.html :stirthepot2:

22t*45 said: If you wanted to be completely legal, would it be a problem to deface US pennies in Canada?

tr*vj said: If you wanted to be completely legal, would it be a problem to deface US pennies in Canada? No. Other than that it falls right in the same category as the mental midgets that show up her proclaiming that they just spent $$$ on a fast twist barrel for their .22, and want to know who has Aquila SSS in stock, as happens, it seems, on a weekly basis around here... It pretty much indicates a lack of homework on the part of the poster. US pennies went cheap too. Zinc with a copper wash. At one point they were worth more as scrap copper, so a lot of the copper ones have vanished. And they would still be a crappy source for your raw stock because if the thickness variations. Point being, if you are going to spend the time and money, spend it on something that requires materials you can get, rather than materials that you either cannot get, or are no longer common. Ever read any of the books that tell you that old Winchester Single Shot rifles are cheap and common, and make good varmint conversions, or that surplus Mausers are a good source for actions for the home gunsmith? More information that was current in the 1950's. Copper sheet is readily available, as is brass shim stock. If you really want to make jackets or gas checks for large calibers, those would be materials to look at and plan around. Same with Aluminum sheet stock, whether flashing or bought for the purpose. Worth looking at the Swaging sub forum on castboolits. There is some interesting stuff being done with pistol cases and cut down rifle cases, as jackets for larger cal rounds. The two Corbin Brothers' sites are worth looking at. Swage.com, and rceco.com. Wait times are long, prices high, and other than the waiting time, I have never found anyone that had a bad thing to say about their products. Cheers Trev

*ridan said: For those who are interested, there are some excellent videos on swaging available from ammosmith channel on youtube. He uses spent .22 cases to make jackets. h ttp://www.youtube.com/user/ammosmith#p/u

msg.dr*w said: You can buy the proper equiptment to make what your after... you use a thin sheet of material and special tools to punch blanks and then punch them into cups. If your interested fire me a pm and I can direct you to where you can get equiptment for making your own gas checks from commen every day materials you can buy at home depot.

c*yote said: I make my own jacketed bullets from scratch using copper and lead all my presses dies punches coining punches core dies point forming dies and everything else needed I made myself . It took me about 3 years of experimenting with dies and punches to draw good jackets which is the most important part of the bullet,they need to be very concentric in order to achieve good accuracy. The best material to use is guilding metal a copper alloy 95% copper 5% zinc {astm alloy 21000} copper is the easiest to get but if you use copper try and get the oxygen free copper it is suppose to foul a little less than regular sheet copper used for roofing and gutters and such. Like TrevJ said there is a lot of interessting reading on castboolits under swaging. The dies and punches needed to make bullets are not easy to make unless you are a tool and die maker or a pretty knowledgable machinist or know one you will have problems getting the right size on the point forming and core seating die ,these 2 dies are what make a good or bad bullet. If you are trying to make a .311" point forming die the bullet needs to come out of the die at .311" it goes in about .0005" smaller. When I started making dies I ended up remaking everything at least 2 or 3 times before I got things working right there is information on the dies if you read some of dave cobin's free ebooks all the dies needed are shown and the swaging procedure explained in good details ,however he doesn't go into detail regarding how these dies are actually made or what the geometry of the bellmouth on the drawing dies are made {trial and error is what I had to do}. You will also need a good strong press for drawing jackets a reloading press is not strong enough for this task,a reloading press can be used for forming the bullets and making and seating cores it can also be used for making jackets from fired 22 rf brass. Making bullets is a lot of work but it is also a lot of fun if you like this kind of stuff. The end result are great shooting bullets .